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 Re: Sad employment figure for PHDs
Author: William 
Date:   2010-10-29 15:27

When I went to music school in the early 1960's, many of our teachers were there because they were good as what they did, not how many post doctoral degrees they had aquired. In fact, none of our wind faculty members, as I recall, had DMA's. In fact, our horn instructor had not completed his high school diploma--he was hired because he had played with the NY Woodwind Quintet, the NY Philharmonic Orchestra, many film sound tracks and was considered at that time by his peers to be one of the two best horn players in the world. It is sad to think that he probably would have been unemployable in these days without the now-required DMA. BTW, he took the job at our University because he was simply tired of the music scene of the "big city" and more interested in passing his experiance onto horn students. Similarily, our professor of flute can to us from the Philadelphia Orchestra's principal chair and our bassoon instructor from the Chicago Symphony--none had advanced degrees and all were tired of the professional level "rat race". They were hired to be our teachers simply because they were great players who could teach and lead by example.

Why do universities require DMA's of the faculty?? No other reason except for advertising and attracting prospective "starry eyed" students fill their classrooms and pay tuition fees. It's all about economics and not about education anymore. Our universities blindly keep churning out the DMA's to keep students in school longer and simply, make more make money. The big myth is, you have to have a PHD or DMA to be good enough to "get that job"--and now, the only real-world job may very well be to pump gas or flip burgers.
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