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 Re: Sad employment figure for PHDs
Author: rgames 
Date:   2010-10-29 05:01

When looking at the value of any degree you need to consider the subject area and how it relates to success in that field.

Consider this:

How many of music's great leaders have the equivalent of a doctorate?
How mant of science's great leaders have the equivalent of a doctorate?


In my (humble) opinion, music is much more of an experience-based profession than a formal-learning-based profession. To that end, it's more like sports than science yet we treat it more like science than sports. Who gets a PhD in golf?

Furthermore, the economic value of the degree is highly dependent upon subject area. Graduate students in science and engineering almost always (probably more than 90% of the time at the major schools) *get paid* to complete their degrees. In other words, they have tuition paid for and get a stipend on top of that. What's the percentage in the music world? I don't know for sure, but in my experience it's a lot less. Loading up a pile of debt also devalues a degree. In fact, science/engineering graduate stipends (i.e. the "paycheck" beyond the tuition costs) often exceed the salaries for smaller orchestras.

I've discussed this exact issue with a number of musicians/comopsers and there's another interesting point that always comes up: it seems that the push towards graduate degrees in music has correlated with the decline in concert-going audiences. Coincidence? Are we really making better musicians and composers? Of course there's a chicken-egg effect there so it's tough to conclude causation but there is correlation.

rgames

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